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Nodtveidt
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I won't respond to that post either, but I'll sure as hell laugh at it for the next fifteen minutes. Excuse me, I'll be right back.
(15 minutes pass)
Okay, yeah...I needed a good laugh this morning, really wakes a person up. :) Anyways, if anyone were to start up something like this, I'd contribute to it, provided the editor wasn't an elitist snob (remember zkman?).
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NyanNyanKoneko
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Like, what I really would like to see in this magazine is something like what they have over at the ccgr (Christ Centered Game Reviews) over at http://www.ccgr.org/
The problem is that they don't update their game reviews often enough, and sometimes it's difficult to find games you want. Most often than not though, role playing games are the games that can make people uncomfortable. And of course, they don't have any indie games.
As far as style goes... Personally, I like how the Fire Emblem review at ccgr lists moral attributes of the game and gives them a score based on how appropriate they are.
| Quote: | Violence: 7/10
Language: 10/10
Occult Themes: 5.5/10
Sexuality: 10/10
Moral/Ethical Issues: 10/10
Appropriateness Total: 42.5/50 |
We could also issue disclaimers if a game has homosexual content in it, or really overt devil / pagan worship where the player has to like perform rites or something.
Just a thought...
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Nephilim
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Are we talking about a reviews site, or a development site? If the latter, it seems like most articles wouldn't be reviews, and the reviews that do appear would be more about the technical achievements (production values and innovation of graphics, music, scripting, game mechanics, etc.) than about the particular content.
FWIW, this sort of developer's-perspective rating system came up in the discussion in this thread back when Mandrake was thinking about a site revamp or separate site process. (Mandrake, I'd still like to see a site with all the cool features you were talking about!)
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js71
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| NyanNyanKoneko wrote: | | We could also issue disclaimers if a game has homosexual content in it... |
Ooh... That struck a nerve. It's tough, this whole 'ignoring' thing. :p
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DrunkenCoder
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This could be an intresting read, but it seems like the only real contributor is Mandrake and what audience would it get? I hang around this site out of old habit more than anything and for me it is mostly the indie rpg scene and well that simply can't be right.
And this christian game review stuff is just insane if you ask me, not that you would.
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LeoDraco
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Josiah Tobin wrote: | | NyanNyanKoneko wrote: | | We could also issue disclaimers if a game has homosexual content in it... |
Ooh... That struck a nerve. It's tough, this whole 'ignoring' thing. :p |
Yar; I never quite mastered it with Galbalan. Try your best to resist, however!
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DrunkenCoder
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Yar; I never quite mastered it with Galbalan. Try your best to resist, however! |
You have no chance to survive make your time.
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biggerUniverse
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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PANTS!
EDIT: (All your post are belong to rant)
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Nephilim
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| DrunkenCoder wrote: | | You have no chance to survive make your time. |
Heh.
I just got a vision of a web site that reviews RPG's, but all the reviews are written in Engrish.
For instance, here's one of the RPGDX reviews translated into Japanese and back:
| Engrish Translator wrote: | | Being the only member of the secret mark of end, the fact which therefore wins should not take from the fact that with default, RPG where that is splendid still is. Other entry rivaled me who probably will not be surprised because it understands that this game of that still probably is victory entry. The eye to the play, pleasantly straw raincoat the joy of the game because many becomes navigates and some meaningful manner hugely and how, doing that basic thing is done, for example (the fight engine where on the system the key left and right and level of memory storage format has been attached exactly). |
Who wouldn't want to play the game after a review like that?
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BadMrBox
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Listen to me NNK. You. Need. To. Grow. Up.
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tunginobi
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| BadMrBox wrote: | | Listen to me NNK. You. Need. To. Grow. Up. |
Well, one can dream.
When you begin the production of a magazine, the presumption is that there will be sufficient topics of interest AND writers to back them up each and every issue. That's a hard order to fill.
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NyanNyanKoneko
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You. Need. To. Grow. Up. |
What? This thread is comfusing me. Was it something I said, or are you just being silly?
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BadMrBox
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I am never silly.
| Quote: | | We could also issue disclaimers if a game has homosexual content in it |
As I said, You. Need. To. Grow. Up.
By the way, that ccgr place gave Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault 4/5. What happened to you shall not kill?
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NyanNyanKoneko
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I understand what you meant now. I think it's important to respect that there are some religious viewpoints in this world that say homosexual behavior is wrong, and that makes some people genuinely uncomfortable. Those are valid feelings, and I think we should be respectful of that.
As for the violence in Medal of Honor... The ccgr reviewer gave a score based on how fun the game was, but didn't give it a morality score. However, he wrote in his review moral concerns that buyers should be aware of before buying the game, in particular...
| Quote: | | This game is all about war, and it is an FPS, so naturally it is a bit violent. Bayonets are used for stabbing, you shoot the enemy, throw grenades at them, even hit them with the end of your rifle until they drop to the ground. It is a very intense game as I said earlier. Most of the violence is bloodless, but occasionally there is some splattered blood. If you know FPS’s and WWII games, this shouldn't be too much for you. |
In a WWII themed game, most people picking up the game will know what to expect. If people are OK reenacting scenes of War, then they know this game will have that sort of violence. But he goes into detail about blood levels and gore and what-not.
Some games have content, however, that may not be apparent from the box or from screenshots that may make some people uncomfortable. Ultima Online, I believe, had you make pentagrams and light candles around it to make spells. That genuinely upset few people who bought the game not knowing this.
People are going to have different comfort levels with different things. Some people may feel fine role playing a character who practices pagan rituals. Others may not be fine with that, but violence that reflects a real-world event may be OK. People have different values and beliefs, and I think this magazine could attract some attention and be very helpful by recognizing the needs of gamers who are often overlooked by the industry.
EDIT: If you guys don't want to see this in your RPGDev magazine (like you just want to focus on programming and design), that's fine. It was just a suggestion.
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RuneLancer
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| Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| NyanNyanKoneko wrote: | | I understand what you meant now. I think it's important to respect that there are some religious viewpoints in this world that say homosexual behavior is wrong, and that makes some people genuinely uncomfortable. Those are valid feelings, and I think we should be respectful of that. |
I for one agree with NNK. We should discourage open-mindedness and understanding by shielding people from ideas that don't match their beliefs. Open-mindedness and acceptance are two social stigmas we need to curb as soon as possible, because the world is FAR too lax on these things.
For that matter, people who are homosexual (male or female) are absolute freaks and should be treated differently than regular people. We must encourage people to identify them as being "different", not attempt to minimize the gap between them and, y'know, us normal non-gay people. Again with this "open-mindedness" thing... like I say, a real social plague that will only make things worse for us in the long run. The world is a static entity and people's ideals should never change. And if they do, we must never attempt to change our ideals, because people are wrong for being different. Isn't that clear enough?
Oh crap, hold on, was I being sarcastic...? Should people stop being such damned sissies and learn to cope with the real world...? Naaaaaaaaaw :)
Either way, I must warn everyone who has been following Endless Saga's progress. The game's second chapter's main character is a lesbian. And there may be a slightly effiminated character (though not explicitely identified as gay; it may shock some of you nevertheless so by all means shut your eyes and cover your ears if you can't deal with it.)
Also, it features animated violence, the occasional rapid camera movement, and green pixels. Gamers may find themselves inconvinienced by the presence of the hexadecimal value "0xD5" in various files bundled with the game.
An open mind is a dangerous thing. Say no to individualism! The world must never accept modern ideas! WE ARE ALL FOUR-LETTER ACRONYMS! :D
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