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tcaudilllg · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:43 am Post subject: It looks like war with Iran

Our lives mean nothing to them. We live for their naive hero fantasies.

I'm just waiting for them to start it. Governments all over the world are gonna fall and pols will be lynched by the dozens, in a huge explosion of anger that has been building ever since 9/11.

Ninkazu · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject:

*sigh* don't feed the trolls.

tcaudilllg · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject:

Actually I think a WWIII game, involving Russia, Syria, Iran, and NATO/Israel would be thought provoking, possibly entertaining, and maybe worth making.

tcaudilllg · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject:

RampantCoyote · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject:

Isreali newspaper is reporting that Obama offered Isreal bunch of high-tech weapons in exchange for not attacking until after the elections. So, hey, war is likely deferred until 2013!
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Ninkazu · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject:

tcaudilllg · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject:

Nodtveidt · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:32 am Post subject:

The US would have no problem annihilating Iran if the need arose. Don't underestimate the ability of the US war machine... there's not a single military in the world that can compare. Of course, the US wouldn't do it... there's too much oil there to go to waste, and it would make a pretty poor storybook story if we just squashed them in a single go.
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tcaudilllg · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:09 am Post subject:

Nodtveidt · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:16 am Post subject:

I almost wish you were right.
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tcaudilllg · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:58 am Post subject:

Right, we don't have the manpower UNLESS....

It's Israel's existence, right? Why should we do the occupying? They draft their young into the army anyway, right? Let them hold the place if they are that desperate to stop them.

If Iran is attacked, it'll become very dangerous to leave North America. There will be terror attacks everywhere. The whole Shiite religion will go ballistic.

tcaudilllg · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:23 pm Post subject:

I wonder what will happen first, war with Iran or civil war in the U.S.? If SCOTUS overturns the health care bill, it'll be the 2nd high-ground attack on American progress since Bush's anointment in 2000 by Scalia.

This law... is actually pretty perfect. It respects capitalism, the right to choose who you want to work with when producing a product, over socialism, which forces people to work with people they dislike. It permits the regulation of premiums, which creates an incentive to vote for people who will be responsible when running the government, rather than Bush clones. The mandate might not seem necessary on the surface, but the reality is that it's the only way to keep people's attention focused on regulation of the prices. If the mandate is in place, prices will stay low because insurance companies will risk the ire of the entire body public by raising them. If not, the Republicans will, through business and the legislature, steadily diminish the subsidies until people again cannot afford coverage.

Opposition to the bill consists of ideologues, which diverge into two groups, the overtly selfish and the radically misguided. Each of these groups consist of social darwinists, self-righteous self-over-workers (who see people who need state assistance as "lazy bums"), and socialist die-hards who put anti-capitalist principle over people. There is also a third party of "stated" opponents who are actually for the law, as per its altruistic meaning, but have been bullied by the other two groups into opposing it (if the court upholds the law, this group will gradually begin to support it). Regardless, the nullification of the bill will pin the American center directly against the radical fringe. This dynamic may follow in other countries as well.

The cynic in me sees this as an ideal opportunity for Bibi Netanyahu to strike Iran, dragging America into a Vietnam-style quagmire that distracts it from its domestic inadequacies. However that card has already been played once and the patience of the center is about to run out.

I wish there was some other way, but the aforementioned groups have too much at stake to get behind an amendment to permit a mandate. The only road ahead would be direct war on them, because they cannot be persuaded without enormous social pressure, the like of which doesn't seem feasible given our political diversity. Is altruism worth a war? It's happened before in America... and it started exactly the same way: inside the Supreme Court. It was delayed by 13 years, as the political climate deteriorated, but inevitably an altruistic leader appeared to lead the forced advance of authentic morality. Will we face that again? We may know in a few days if we are on that road.

Of course the battle would be one-sided: the center vs the radical right. The radical left, being the pacifists they are, would no doubt sit it out.