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TheHolyCatfish
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so i should learn C also? are there any books on that that i can dl?
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TheHolyCatfish
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yea i think i need to learn c first, could anyone point out any good books to get on C?
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Rainer Deyke
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Another book that teaches C++ is C++ in Action: Industrial-Strength Programming Techniques. It's available online, and does not require prior knowledge of C. The beginner C++ book most recommended by the experts is Accelerated C++, which also requires no prior knowledge of C but is not available online.
One thing to atch out for if you do learn C first is that many idioms in C are considered poor practice in C++. For example, manual memory management is inappropriate for C++, as is C-style string handling.
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TheHolyCatfish
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sorry for the double post, i didnt see the other page. ok ill chek out the book
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BigManJones
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I found an case where Vis C++ 6.0 fell flat on its face recently; I had a class with an inner private struct an I couldn't compile the .cpp file for the class because some of the functions returned the private struct:
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class binarysearchtree {
private:
struct node {
...
};
public:
node *insert(node *, int);
etc... rest of class
}
then in the .cpp
node *binarysearchtree::insert(node *root, int value) {
...
}
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Took me about 2 hours and some reading to figure that one out. The book I have said that most c++ compilers don't do very well when mixing language features.
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LeoDraco
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Compilers and Libs |
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| Jihgfed Pumpkinhead wrote: | | Every once in a while I'll do a thorough run-through with MingW, re-compiling all my source (just in case my makefile is screwed up somewhere) with the -Wall option to make sure all my code is kosher. |
Er, you do realize that -Wall does not enable all warnings that a gcc compiler can give you, right? If you really want to make sure that your code is kosher, you should try ridding what gcc complains about with -Weffc++ enabled.
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DrunkenCoder
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oh, and on the subject of kosher code... anyone know where to get a free lint?
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Jihgfed Pumpkinhead
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:24 pm Post subject: Kosher Lint |
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| LeoDraco wrote: | | Er, you do realize that -Wall does not enable all warnings that a gcc compiler can give you, right? If you really want to make sure that your code is kosher, you should try ridding what gcc complains about with -Weffc++ enabled. |
I tried something like that (not sure if it was the exact same thing) once, and it seemed to give me about 500 errors, so I decided I didn't need my code to be that clean after all. So maybe it's not kosher, but at least, well, if I knew more about Judaism I might be able to say something clever, but I guess I'll just say that it compiles, and I'm reasonably sure it'll work with most other compilers as well, which is all I ask for.
| DrunkenCoder wrote: | | anyone know where to get a free lint? |
Um, you can have all of mine, provided you pay postage. I'll be going down to the laundromat later so I can send it off in an hour or so.
Yes, obviously I have no idea what a "lint" is.
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Rainer Deyke
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"lint" is an external program to give you warnings on your code that your compiler won't give you. Sorry, don't know any free ones.
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