[DrunkenCoder]

Lately I've noticed a few names on the newest projects page that worries me.

"Tetris" and "Chrono Trigger GBA" for example both Tetris and Chrono Trigger are clearly copyrigthed names owned by diffrent cooperations. Using them could for their authors bring a heap of trouble and it's really not uncommon for big bad ass companies to shutdown smaller sites with cease and decist orders only for referencing to copyright infrigement materials.

So maybe RPGDX should start enforcing a stricter policy on what projects are ok to post or better yet the original authors could realize how serious this really is and change the names.
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[valderman]

Umm... Tetris + RPGDX? Can I somehow talk to the blocks?
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[valderman]

If it was my decision, I'd say that neither of those projects belong on RPGDX. It isn't good to tease huge corporations into legal action.
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[Sirocco]

Honestly, it can't really see it being RPGDX's responsibility to filter content strictly based on possible IP or trademark conflicts. Those matters should be left to the authors and content holders respectively. Since RPGDX doesn't host any projects, there can be no liability beyond linking, given current legal proceedings in the US.

Naturally, any project that doesn't fall into the loosely defined realm of arr pee gee should get the axe automatically.

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[DarkDread]

Perhaps this site should have a legal disclaimer of some sort... you know how sue happy some people can get.
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[Rooter]

Well, if Square-Enix really has a problem with our CT GBA project, our web page is clearly linked from the project page and they can contact me about it and I'll take the site down. I don't see why our project should be taken down from the site, as it is clearly an RPG and doesn't violate any prior written terms on this site. Also, shouldn't "Blues Brother RPG" be taken down as well, as it clearly uses a copyright of another company and even takes the story directly from it. If we're going to alienate projects from the sites let's be universally unbiased and not exclude Blues Brothers because it happens to be the project of the site owner. That's just an example, I don't have anything personal against the Blues Brothers project and I think it's ludicrous to even suggest that any of these projects should be removed in reality (excluding maybe Tetris unless there are some serious RPG elements added in).

[Mandrake]

1.- i think tetris should definately be taken down. Who the hell posted that?

CT GBA is definately infringing on more copyrights than Blue Brothers RPG. BB RPG could be considered fan art, while CT GBA is just blatently stealing copyrighted work (lifting it from the game istelf) as well as stealing the plot and etc. There is nothing original about it. And btw, I did notify square-enix of your project.
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[Rooter]

[Bjorn_]

That's a nice point you make there Rooter. :-)

I won't be removing games from RPGDX when I suspect copyright problems. These things have been discussed for compos as well and the general idea is that people should take care of that themselves. When companies start asking, the case is different and if removing the game would make them happy, I'll probably do so and notify the author of the game about the what and why.

Tetris probably doesn't belong here as a project, and the author has started some weird threads on the forum as well. I've removed it and will email him about it.

[Mandrake]

[Rooter]

[Mandrake]

oh yeah, let's see here, it takes so much longer to rip graphics from an emulator than it does to do it by hand. Soryy I called you a newb, but that's something newb's do. They rip and claim it's 'temprary'. Until they find someone to help. I've never done that- I made crappy games with crappy art- and it's more than just code that makes a good game. it's good gameplay, and you can try to rip that, but the experience of finding out what works and what doesn't, that can only come from making games, and levels. Level design, IMHO, is the MOST overlooked aspect of indie RPG's.

DD's games are popular because they have good music, good art, and great level design. If any of these were missing, it would suck. Esp level design. Look at Xmark's ARC:Legecy....great game because of level design. Same with Dark Ages and etc. Level design turned these into cult games.

and you need to make games to understand how it works, and how it balances.

Ok, I'm going to end my rant now. Let's jsut say, you need more than an engine. You need ideas. Fenix Blade and Frenetic Plus are good examples of this, the world in both of these games are phenomonal, it feels like you are there, living in them. I think boith games would still be as popular adn as good with crappy SFX and crappy GFX just because of the world design, the level design, and just overall kick ass factor. The SFX and grafx are just hella kick ass bonus's.

I have yet to meet a ripper that lasts more than a few months on the indie scene. It's jsut not respected.

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ps- the rankings are supposed to be a joke, cause it is a funny situation, and I have no reason to bitch like I do. Either way, if you are offended by your ranking, please tell me and I'll change it back. But, before you do, check out my rank, wink wink.
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[Rooter]

Eh, I'm pretty much done with this argument. The fact is neither of us is going to agree with one another. You are underestimating me because of an opinion you already have formed in your head. Fact is, whether I make it on the indie scene or not isn't a big deal to me, all I'm doing is gathering experience and working my way onto my future. Oh and of course it's harder for us doing things this way - I've worked on being an artist for something like 5 years and I'm just not good at it. I would never be doing art on an original project.

[Mandrake]