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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 10:48 pm    Post subject: [quote]

I think thats the reason I'm so flexible with programming language, I can pretty much any syntax as if it were a spoken language. Yeah I know- spot the geek.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 1:08 am    Post subject: [quote]

It also gets easier the more language you learn. I haven't learned outside of the c style syntax (I haven't studied perl but it looks confusing to me
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 1:11 am    Post subject: [quote]

Yeah. Every language I've ever looked at contains at its core variables, functions and conditional logic/looping, they just handle them slightly differently from each other. I mean thats really all any program does isn't it, take data and manipulate it different ways under given certain conditions.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 3:32 am    Post subject: [quote]

The first language I learned was C, and it's still pretty much the only language I know besides some C++ and C#.

People always say C is complex or whatever but I always find that "simpler" languages seem to have all these extra words that need to be used, it just gets confusing for me. I've learned to think along C-based lines, so thats the way I work now. Oh well.

And it really BOTHERS me when I dont have any kind of control over memory/datatypes. hehe
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 3:42 am    Post subject: [quote]

The only thing that annoys me about all the different languages I know is the different conventions drive me up the wall. I mean every language has different symbols used for comparisons, string concatenations etc. eg (&&,&,AND,+,..,.). It becomes a bit of a pain when I'm switching between different languages continuously. I come to work and have to switch between VB/PHP/C++ and it takes my brain a while to wake up, and I'll invariably get around to compiling a program and find half a dozen errors because I'm using the syntax from the wrong language. But hey, I'm a twit.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:12 am    Post subject: [quote]

twinsen wrote:
The only thing that annoys me about all the different languages I know is the different conventions drive me up the wall. I mean every language has different symbols used for comparisons, string concatenations etc. eg (&&,&,AND,+,..,.). It becomes a bit of a pain when I'm switching between different languages continuously. I come to work and have to switch between VB/PHP/C++ and it takes my brain a while to wake up, and I'll invariably get around to compiling a program and find half a dozen errors because I'm using the syntax from the wrong language. But hey, I'm a twit.


Yeah, I know that....at school I must code in that goddamned LOGO...but at home I use QB,VB,C/C++,PHP,...
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:14 am    Post subject: [quote]

LOL, what is it with LOGO. Did that program ever really have a practical application? It seems to me nothing more than a graphical calculator of sorts.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:46 am    Post subject: [quote]

It is....but teacher think it's a good language....
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:52 am    Post subject: [quote]

Okay heres my definition of a language. A language is any sort of programming thingy C/C++ etc whatever, where there is *NOT* a command referred to as "Show Turtle" or "Hide Turtle".
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:09 am    Post subject: [quote]

twinsen wrote:
Okay heres my definition of a language. A language is any sort of programming thingy C/C++ etc whatever, where there is *NOT* a command referred to as "Show Turtle" or "Hide Turtle".


That's a good definition
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 12:08 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Thats why I combine perl and python: they are quite alike but the combo can work miracles, especially on AI combined with LISP.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 11:56 pm    Post subject: [quote]

BigManJones wrote:
It also gets easier the more language you learn. I haven't learned outside of the c style syntax (I haven't studied perl but it looks confusing to me


Perl is very confusing... it's been described as a "write-only" language, and that's probably correct, if you're trying to read someone else's source. It's insanely easy to write text processing stuff, but it's insanely hard to figure out WTF you were trying to do when you come back three weeks later and find you forogt to put in comments... but it's still fun. And there's a Obfuscated Perl contest, if I remember correctly. Bunch of crazy Perl addicts write Perl programs that do something and let other people try to figure out what it is they do without executing.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 2:36 am    Post subject: [quote]

I had a comp sci class and the T.A. that made the 'keys' for the programming projects would write them in 'obfuscated C' that guys was an ass. One time he 'wrote' (I think he plagiarized off the net somewhere) a set of #defines such that you could write a simple C program in psuedo code. Then he wrote a solution to the project in it, it was kinda neat to see.

The most 'exotic' language I've used is JCL (a EDIT: No Prize goes to the person who knows what that is!)
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 4:23 am    Post subject: [quote]

Reading perl... I guess I use my perl->python script for that :P
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 6:37 pm    Post subject: [quote]

I am confused and dissapointed to see my post is not running anymore. Come on people !
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