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valderman Mage
Joined: 29 Aug 2002 Posts: 334 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Josiah Tobin wrote: | What does it matter if 70% of the people who go here still use IE?
Are they going to mess up the forum and disrupt the community by stating that they don't use what 'everyone esle should use'? | No, but using IE isn't leet enough. By having a larger percentage use Firefox (or any other browser except IE, the more obscure the better), RPGDX gains leetness points.
Besides, Mozilla Firefox beats the crap out of IE any day. _________________ http://www.weeaboo.se
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Sirocco Mage
Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 345
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Normally I don't make it a habit to proselytize, but as it stands Mozilla whips IE in every possible category -- and it's a simple matter of suggesting something that will make your life easier.
So... uh... go Mozilla. Yep.
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Happy JonA's American snack pack
Joined: 03 Aug 2002 Posts: 200
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Josiah Tobin wrote: | It kinda bugs me when people try to 'convert' other people to their belief of good and bad. |
It kind of bugs me when people are bigoted enough to think a suggestion about something that could possibly be better, is part of a larger and more agressive campaign for "conversion" of some kind.
Josiah Tobin wrote: | What does it matter if 70% of the people who go here still use IE? |
It doesn't matter, actually. It's just a statistic. We all know statistics are pretty much pointless.
Josiah Tobin wrote: | Are they going to mess up the forum and disrupt the community by stating that they don't use what 'everyone esle should use'? |
Josiah Tobin wrote: | Is there anything really WRONG with IE?
I don't have any problems with it.
Don't really need anything more, either.
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I highly doubt anyone here is trying to "convert" you, Josiah. So calm down.
And, yes, there are some things that are seriously "WRONG" with Internet Explorer. Convoluted and hidden features are one, and unpatched security holes are another, to name a few. A site here, used to maintain a list of security holes (but, supposedly have been silenced). But a few have another, as does this one, here, and this one.
Also, standards compliance is a seemingly difficult thing for Microsoft to do in general. This is probably a moot point, though, since many believe Microsoft has and makes it's own standards.
Standards of excellency in the area of the kludge, I says.
EDIT: Sirocco wrote: | Normally I don't make it a habit to proselytize, but [...] uh... go Mozilla. Yep. |
I was wrong! Better watch out, Josiah Tobin, change is a very terrible thing!
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Rooter Copyright Infringer
Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Happy, it really shouldn't come as any surprise that Frog felt the need to preach in this thread. For somebody who doesn't like seeing another person trying to "convert" those around him, he certainly has no problem infecting us with his opinion.
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Sirocco Mage
Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 345
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, sorry 'bout that. I suppose Happy has blown my cover...
I'm actually an ordained priest of the Church of Mozilla. Tomorrow morning at first light we're going to gather by the bay and dance around a giant inflatable lizard, which bears an uncanny resemblance to something big that loves to snack on Tokyo.
People who still use IE aren't stupid; they just haven't been informed that something better exists ;)
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Bjorn Demon Hunter
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | What does it matter if 70% of the people who go here still use IE? |
It doesn't matter anything, the "shocking" that I added was merely my own opinion creaping in.
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LeoDraco Demon Hunter
Joined: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 584 Location: Riverside, South Cali
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: |
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I generally use IE, just show I know what limitations non-1337 people will have when viewing my web designs. You know: 'cause you have to specially talior your pages to the standards incompliant programs, as those are the only things that ignorant people use.
Present company excluded.
Perhaps. _________________ "...LeoDraco is a pompus git..." -- Mandrake
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:35 am Post subject: |
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myie2 anyone?
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Sirocco Mage
Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 345
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:08 am Post subject: |
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'cause you have to specially talior your pages to the standards incompliant programs, as those are the only things that ignorant people use.
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Mmm.... ran into that when I finished redesigning my site last week. Everything looked fine under Gecko, but IE refused to pass on the current background color to the embedded frame, and made everything look wonky.
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BadMrBox Bringer of Apocalypse
Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 1022 Location: Dark Forest's of Sweden
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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me too...
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...oh god. _________________
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js71 Wandering DJ
Joined: 22 Nov 2002 Posts: 815
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Rooter wrote: | Happy, it really shouldn't come as any surprise that Frog felt the need to preach in this thread. For somebody who doesn't like seeing another person trying to "convert" those around him, he certainly has no problem infecting us with his opinion. |
I'm sorry...
Am I 'infecting' you with my opinion by saying I think there's nothing wrong with IE, and that it's good enough for ME?
I find it interesting how we used to be on good terms, Rooter.
Then you went to my forums, didn't like the project I was working on, so you offered 'constructive criticism' on the project, then when I stated that all you were doing was blatantly putting it down with no suggestions on how to improve it whatsoever, you dissapeared.
And now you're bashing me because of this?
Happy wrote: | It kind of bugs me when people are bigoted enough to think a suggestion about something that could possibly be better, is part of a larger and more agressive campaign for "conversion" of some kind. |
I overreacted.
I was wrong.
I was an asshole.
Is that what you want me to say?
Alright then, you've got it.
Happy wrote: | I was wrong! Better watch out, Josiah Tobin, change is a very terrible thing! |
You won't be seeing me around these forums anymore.
Now, I just know there's someone who's gonna post saying some smart-ass comment like "oh no! what a huge loss!", so don't bother trying to piss me off with one.
I won't see it.
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Bjorn Demon Hunter
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Another example of Happy being entirely misunderstood, I hope...
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biggerUniverse Mage
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 326 Location: A small, b/g planet in the unfashionable arm of the galaxy
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:18 am Post subject: Re: File associations in Internet Explorer |
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XMark wrote: | Anyone know how to manually change file associations in IE? I know how to do it in windows but for some reason IE decides to go and do its own thing. Like when I click on an MP3 file in windows it loads up Winamp but in IE it goes into one of those shitty Quicktime player page things. |
Does anyone remember why this thread started? I second Bjorn. I hope Josiah does not truly leave over this. _________________ We are on the outer reaches of someone else's universe.
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janus Mage
Joined: 29 Jun 2002 Posts: 464 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:19 am Post subject: |
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Bjørn wrote: | Another example of Happy being entirely misunderstood, I hope... | Yeah, it'd be a real shame if someone didn't notice that he's an asshat. Then again, we have Rooter here now, so he's not so bad.
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