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Hmm. The concept of changing the review system might cause older reviews to be incompatible. Would anyone find this a problem?
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Depending upon the final format of the new system, you could probably write a quick script to transform/migrate the data to a compatible format. You would probably want to at least retain the written part of the reviews, since some people spent a fair amount of time writing them.
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Mandrake
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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True. But the problem is that in hte new version each part of a game is reviewed and rated (graphics, input, overall, fun factor, etc), while currently it is not.
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Mandrake
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Bjorn- I can't commit to the SVN.
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If you're having an overall rating, why not stick old review marks in there? The problem with removing them is that people usually only review new additions, so games that rock but are old will likely never be re-marked.
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Mandrake
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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This causes a problem when using the new rating system to sort games. And if we repeated the review marks per each section (graphics and etc) this could also cause another problem altogther different.
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Mandrake
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. Actually, a lot of things might need to change....like reviews and news and articles. All of those are going to go through drastic changes.
Hrm.
It might be a better idea to wipe it all clean and start fresh. Or not. I'm not sure. Thoughts?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandrake wrote: | | True. But the problem is that in hte new version each part of a game is reviewed and rated (graphics, input, overall, fun factor, etc), while currently it is not. |
Note that we used to have multiple ratings per review but that it was decided to make it a single number. I don't quite get the reason to move back to how it was yet, it has even be discussed to make the reviews less like full stories but more short comments, in order to encourage more people to rate the games.
| Mandrake wrote: | | Bjørn- I can't commit to the SVN. |
Yes, it's only public accessible but not public modifiable. If you want to start committing I'll make you an account. I would advice you first start working in a seperate branch depending on what you're changing at the moment.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I say, just choose something managable and make it happen. Let us sort it out later.
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Mandrake
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's only public accessible but not public modifiable. If you want to start committing I'll make you an account. I would advice you first start working in a seperate branch depending on what you're changing at the moment.
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Actually, I was just testing out my version of SVN to make sure it was working properly. I planned on building a seperate branch. Question- when I need to upload and test/debug, how should I do that? I'm currently testing on a local LAMP server, but eventually I'll want to test it live with the current data.
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Note that we used to have multiple ratings per review but that it was decided to make it a single number. I don't quite get the reason to move back to how it was yet, it has even be discussed to make the reviews less like full stories but more short comments, in order to encourage more people to rate the games. |
I thought we had changed it! But I just assumed I was imganing things. Maybe this- we keep the old reviews and rename them to just mini-reviews (short one-offs). Users can also submit full-game reviews as well (with comments on each section). Any review/rating on an unfinished project will be considered a "preview" and change how it affects the raw ranking.
I've worked out a tag system that might be applicable. I want to add some AJAX stuff so I can build a real-time search including the tags and savable searches for users that are logged in.
Anyone that's used Spotlight will know what I'm going for with real time searching.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandrake wrote: | | Naw, I'll just create some .sql files that will generate the new tables and etc I'll need. I just wanted to look at PHPMyAdmin to get an idea of what the current database looks like. It's been a long time since I've looked at the code and you've made a ton of changes to it, and I think this might help me edit things (looking at the database structure) |
I've committed the current database structure to Subversion, available through the following URL:
http://www.lindeijer.nl/svn/public/RPGDX/sql/database.sql
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Mandrake wrote: | | It might be a better idea to wipe it all clean and start fresh. Or not. I'm not sure. Thoughts? |
It seems folly to wipe years of amassed reviews and projects just because we're having a re-design. I know they don't fit into the new review system you're planning, but it's important to not delete reviews that are otherwise perfectly good. Instead just find some way to keep them, even if they don't count towards the main average mark.
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Mandrake
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| Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I've changed my mind anyway, after Bjorn reminded me that we had originally used the multiple ratings and then changed it back.
So, as I said above, we'll keep the review we have and call them Mini-reviews (short one-offs to encourage more reviews) and then have full-reviews and previews as well that each effect ranking in a different way.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:35 am Post subject: |
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What if some of the reviews aren't so 'mini'?
You could just group them into 'old' and 'new' categories.
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| Mandrake wrote: | | I've worked out a tag system that might be applicable. I want to add some AJAX stuff so I can build a real-time search including the tags and savable searches for users that are logged in. |
Freakin' sweet, Mandrake. I've been itching to try out some AJAX stuff. Looking forward to seeing what you've done.
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