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BigManJones · Scholar Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 196

I'm working on some sprites for my rpg-dev.net contest entry (doesn't look like this one is going to get finished either) and has anyone else noticed that MSPaint in win2000 and winXP no longer allows the user to save images as transparent .gifs? Whats up with that? Why would MS choose to NOT support transparent gifs but normal gifs are okay? Or am I missing a dialogue box somewhere? Anyone with win98/winME want to email me the old version?

Adam · Mage Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 416 Location: Australia

ya, i noticed that.
shouldn't use gifs anyway, the compression is copyrighted and whatnot.
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Modanung · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:06 am Post subject:

Shouldn't use paint anyway, crappy program and whatnot.
use Photoshop, or Gimp if you want to go legal.

BigManJones · Scholar Joined: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 196

Heh, Reasons for using MSPaint:

- Its simple

- Its on my pc at work

Reasons for using .gifs:

- I can load them with java

- They have transparency

Oh well, guess I'll have to reinstall paintshop pro (and try to learn to use it, again.)

Adam · Mage Joined: 30 Dec 2002 Posts: 416 Location: Australia

I use gifs as well :P.
png is the open format replacement to gif.
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The Anarchist · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:50 pm Post subject:

.png rocks. Its quick to load, and doesn't bugger up the image quality. After I found out how good they were, I just .png-ized my whole website. So did DarkDread, I think.
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Ninkazu · Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:36 pm Post subject:

Who else pronounces it "pung" like me? Or is it properly pronounced "ping"?

Or.... sometimes I skip the u and just say pngggggg :P

Bjorn · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 1:27 am Post subject:

It should be announced "ping" but I just say p-n-g, as it reads. :-)

In any case, PNG is a nice format but as I explained earlier, it's not much smaller than zipped up TGAs. IIRC zipped PNGs could even become larger than the same files as TGA, zipped. Of course on the web, the choise is clear. But Allegro can load TGAs out of the box while for PNG I'd need an extra lib.

Modanung · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:08 am Post subject:

If you know some shortkeys in Photoshop, it's quicker to use than Paint.

Nexinarus_lazy · Guest

I have swtiched to the GIMP and I find its so cool. Its free unlike photoshop / paint shop pro, its better, works on more systems, <10mb download, so much usefull features.

And yeah i like png's aswell, i always read it as p-n-g heh.

valderman · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:16 pm Post subject:

I believe it should be pronounced like in Monty Python's HOly Grail...you know, "We are the keepers of the sacred words: Ni, peng and nuuu-woom!"
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Modanung · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:18 pm Post subject:

Isn't it an abreviation?
And yeah, The Holy Grail is great, and i keep seeing people qoute that movie on these forums. :)

The Anarchist · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:19 pm Post subject:

I think it means portable network graphic. And yeah, I keep saying 'pung' as well. Its hard to pronounce a word without vowels, heh.

PS. holy grail rocks. I just saw it the other day and its still funney.
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LeoDraco · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject:

BadMrBox · Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:34 pm Post subject:

You would laugh if you knew what pung means in swedish.
It's your smurfing balls for gods sake, heh.
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