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Mandrake · Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:38 pm Post subject:

I like Sirocco's way of doing. If it's not intrisive, you can ignore it. And to tell you the truth it wasn't intrusive in Frenetic, hell I forgot you had even put it in there in the first place.

I think this, combined with a default keyboard mapping (as well as guidelines on how to do this intuitively) would benefit everyone quite well.

I'm going to restructure this and change the concept. It's now going to be a tuturial on Human Interface from a console style RPG standpoint. Examples in C++ and Allegro will abound. Hmm. Maybe I should submit this to pixelation?
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Sirocco · Mage Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 345

Submitting to Pixelation would be a good idea, as to be truthful I've found little reason to read it as of late. Too much inane babbling, too little applicable content.

We will, I assume, be able to proof read before you submit ;)

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Mandrake · Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject:

yeah, i will post here the work in progress, so you guys can tear it apart as I build it up. This way I don't write another half assed article with code that won't run.
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Nodtveidt · Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:44 am Post subject:

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tcaudilllg · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:27 am Post subject:

Ehm, published games aren't supposed to be "ego trips" in which you make what you want to play at the expense of others who would try the game. (see also, Daikata) The less interaction I have with the keyboard, the better. I avoid games that make me use a lot of keys. The QWERTY keyboard was not designed as a game controller, and there is a good reason why game consoles have yet to adopt keyboards as their default control devices.

I usually assign the right shift and '/'' keys to the controls that the game uses most. I control movement with the directional keypad on the on the right side. When I have the opportunity, I use my comfortable $20.00 gamepad instead.

I died so many times fumbling for the numeric keys in Diablo and doing really stupid stuff like holding down the right control key(?) with my awkward left hand to keep my character from running into traps. Diablo is not a favorite game of mine because its "hotkey" control crap structure is abyssmal.

I understand that some personalities prefer higher levels of keyboard interaction as opposed to lower levels. Please warn me on your download pages that your games are like this so that I don't waste my time dowloading them.

P.S.: I included the shift key in my keyboard mappings out of necessity, not by choice. The keyboard has difficulity processing more than three simultaneous inputs by some keys. Using the shift key allows me an instance in which four inputs are simultaneously available. I recommend that the standard consider this issue. Also, I see a problem with the "Shift/Z/Alt/Space" draft layout: that demon Windows key.... <_<

Sirocco · Mage Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 345

If the win key poses such a problem you can always edit your registry and take it out entirely ;)

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tcaudilllg · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:49 pm Post subject:

Hey, I've got an idea. Instead of choosing a single control set as a standard, why not have a selection of standardized control sets to choose from? It seems to me, that any single control set will make some people unhappy. By using a set of standardized schemas instead of just a single schema, we could make everyone only a little unhappy.

P.S.: I wanna help with this if it's possible.

Mandrake · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:12 am Post subject:

Well, read some posts above. The idea is changing away from a standards-compliancy issue, to instead a how-to and set of guidelines as well as a library that is capable of implementing it. I think, as far as standardizing something goes, a workable library that people can use will make something more of a standard than a conceptual documentation.

If it's helpfull, simple to use, and provides and exellent interface, a GUI lib like the one I'm planning should be more helpfull than anything else.
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