[tcaudilllg]

I updated Iconsole. I also learned PHP over the weekend. It was easier than I expected.

I'm trying to determine what to do with all of the knowledge I have now... and capability. First thing is implementation of palette loading/saving, but I don't know after that.

I'll respond to the rest later. No time now.

[janus]

[tcaudilllg]

LOL, after discussing the issue with Richard, I've come to an understanding that I don't now have the tools in place to explain Iconsole's usefulness properly. Richard likes the idea, though. :)

Have you guys ever heard of the ancient "experimentalist" vs "mathematician" debate? That's basically what's going on here. It was a mistake to distribute Iconsole in a way that reveals its source; although there is little fear of it being compromised in some way, disagreements over the program's structure have taken the place of arguments over its functionality. Even still, there are only a handful of people really angered by it, and they are all in the "mathematician"/perceiver category anyhow. I shouldn't expect them to understand the world from an experimentalist's view. (although I am very disappointed by Drunken Coder. Shouldn't you be asking yourself how to apply this technology to improve our daily lives rather than critiquing its construction?)

I'm not sure what is critique and what is comment in terms of LeoDraco's posts. He interweaves perception and judgement in a way that clarifies one side to the other. Although he is constantly suggesting improvements, I see that he is doing this for others projects also. (when he gets a peek under the hood) So I don't think he means to be completely dismissive. Instead, it appears he feels he is performing a duty that only he can provide.

Question: on the mathematical side of things (classes, abstract classes, interfaces, etc.), I've always thought that maybe some people have an easier time with it than others. That is to say, they spend less energy learning it. Is this true, or are they just more inclined to spend the required energy at the expense of spending it elsewhere?

[RuneLancer]

You say that posting the source was a bad idea, but given your lack of programming experience, it could've turned out a very, very good experience and a perfect chance to learn some of the more useful programming techniques and concepts.

Instead you just cast aside what everyone told you like it was worthless because it meant changing your ideas about programming and trying to learn new concepts.

Next time, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to praise your own ideas and listen to what others who, with no intended offense, more experience than you have to say?
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[DeveloperX]

Yeesh, Bjorn: I want this thread closed/locked.
Enough time has been wasted bickering about this topic.

I have to say that after talking to Tony on the phone, with him explaining to me what each element does, and how to do different tasks, Worldyne is quite powerful, and Iconsole is very intuitive.

While in its current form Iconsole is extremely confusing and undocumented, I assure everyone here and now that I will see to it that the final 'released' version will be very understandable, easy-to-use, easy-to-understand, and will, above all, be fully documented, including tutorials for beginners.

While it looks to be useless, overcomplex, and archaic code,
and by Tony's very coding-style or lack-thereof, depending on your point of view, this has been a very large project, and has been thought out for many months, and in the end we will truly show you
the full power of Worldyne.


Tony: for the last time, do not post anymore about our project.
Not about its status, anymore links, etc..nothing.
When I say that it is ready to be shown off, I will tell you.
Until then, I hereby cast a level 99 SILENCE spell on you. :D
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[janus]

[DeveloperX]

Runelancer:

Tony indeed, did not explain either topic properly.

Alright, here is a short summary of what Worldyne is, and what Iconsole is.

Worldyne is simply another game scripting language, just like any other, such as Lua, Tcl, Python, etc..
It is an interpreted language, meaning that there is the slight overhead of the interpreter needed to run the dyne scripts.
Everybit as powerful as one would need in a scripting language, very robust, and developed for the longest time by both Tony and I.

Iconsole is a web-based tool designed for those that want to learn to create games, but lack the budget to get superior tools.
Iconsole is a compact tool for developing the logistical structure for the game.

There are other tools that are currently far from being usable, and as such are not even ready to be shown to the world.

It is a misconception that Iconsole is to be used for copy/pasting large amounts of code.

While Tony said that it was before, this is not what he meant, as Tony seems to find trouble in expressing his thoughts into words, especially when typing them.
Talking to him verbally, you will find that there is much more to his ideas, and his logistics behind his ideas are solid facts.

I apologize to the community on behalf of Tony, as it was my unforseen absence from the project that led him to start posting about it here. He was not supposed to do anything without my approval, and he obviously couldn't get that from me since I had been away for so long. I think I was gone for 4 months, before I was able to get back into the swing of things.

Worldyne and Iconsole are not designed for veteran game programmers, though, it can be used by them to quickly create small fun games for competitions and whatnot.

Also, this kit, is designed for creating online-based games that anyone can play from any internet-capable device.
Including PDAs, Cellphones*, and other wireless devices.

* of course not all cell phones can be supported, but for those that
can support javascript on a webpage, and can display graphics,
this tool should become very popular.

Not designed to be a clone of Triglav, the Worldyne GCT (Game Creation Toolkit) is in a class of its own, a new and fun, affordable, easy-to-use set of tools that anyone can learn to create games that are only limited by their imaginations.

And that is what this is all about.
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[DeveloperX]

janus:

Go find something better to do than sit on a forum all day and post rude remarks about thinks and people you know NOTHING about.

Tip: challenge yourself to a staring contest by looking in a mirror.
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