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Mark_Y
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:11 am    Post subject: [quote]

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: [quote]

LordGalbalan wrote:
Glah, whatever.

Anyway, I've began the port. The biggest issue is the replication of JS' string routines in C. This isn't as hard as it sounds, just painstaking and confusing. I'm thinking of defining an string struct to make the library easier for people to use. Truth be told, BASIC at this point is the superior choice for such a task. But it's less portable.

The port should be very simply completed after the string issues are resolved.


Again: why you needlessly make this a great issue is beyond me. I know you are fearful of teh Object-Oriented Programming, but, truth be told, if you are wary of C strings, then bite the metaphysical bullet and port the thing to C++; in which case, most C libraries should work, and you get the benefit of using the default String library that comes with most compilers. (Which may be accessible in some form or another in C99.) At the very least, you could always look for some other string library for C.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: [quote]

Mark_Y wrote:
- and "making nearly $4k a week" (http://forums.rpgdx.net/viewtopic.php?t=1298&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15)

This was correct...in a way. What actually happened is that he got screwed over...the amount of money is what he was SUPPOSED to be making, but he ended up getting the shaft. Wisely, he got out of that scam before the shit hit the fan.

Mark_Y wrote:
- describe yourself as "a great designer, and programmer" (http://forums.rpgdx.net/viewtopic.php?t=1302)
- declare "I will be known by all" for your achievements (http://forums.rpgdx.net/viewtopic.php?t=1267)
- and explain "Ronnie (owner of LAStudios) says that I'm the best. And after seeing the previous guys work, I must admit, I am." (id.)

Everyone has the right to be proud of their accomplishments. DevX really has accomplished much and he is allowed some credit as well as some pride. It's also not a bad thing to realize that your work is better than who has come before you...if their work was so great, they'd still be in that position. :) But there is a line between pride and arrogance...pride is when you beam about your accomplishments, and arrogance is when you shoot off your mouth, proclaiming to be the best but having nothing to back it up with.

DevX is proud (with good reason), but LG is arrogant and frankly, he has no reason to be...he's never shown anyone here that he can accomplish a damn thing except poor code, delusions of grandeur, and I-am-rubber-you-are-glue retalitory tactics.
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Mark_Y
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: [quote]

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:21 am    Post subject: [quote]

nodtveidt wrote:
But there is a line between pride and arrogance...pride is when you beam about your accomplishments, and arrogance is when you shoot off your mouth, proclaiming to be the best but having nothing to back it up with.


Pride destroyed Magincia.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:44 pm    Post subject: [quote]

$4000 / wk was promised to me by the person who hired me as a marketer for Bellsouth Communications.

What I soon came to realize after 7 days of on-your-feet marketing, was that 'Optimum Marketing' was not, at all affilated with Bellsouth, nor was I going to make anywhere near what they promised at the start.

That was no lie. I'm at CompUSA right now ~ I'll post the website URLs when I get home.


---

I WAS offered to star as a leading role in a movie.
Ronnie LeBoeuf's son; Ryan LeBoeuf, Age 14; Wrote the script, directed, filmed, and starred in 'Mellow Transgressions' ~ A low-budget film to be sent to Ghost Rider Productions to be produced.

I, unfortunately ended up losing my voice 2 days before I was to film my scenes. Ronnie found a replacement at Ryan's school.

I was the one who did the audio processing for the film, however.

Ghost Rider Productions has not produced the film yet, however, you can get a copy of the DVD by mail straight from LA Studios for $30.



I DID start writing a book to be published.
I did NOT finish the content, because I had more important issues to tend to.
I still plan on publishing the book, but there are more than 7 chapters to be written at this point.
I will not have time to finish the book for quite some time.


As nod said, I am proud of my accomplishments.
Nothing wrong there.

Don't know what else to say right now, as the caffiene hasn't fully kicked in...and I'm tired as hell...work starts in.....15 minutes.
Bleh.
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Nodtveidt
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Mark_Y wrote:
DevX didn't say, "I'm a hard worker with big dreams." There's certainly evidence that he's that, and to the extent you can take pride in dreaming of things beyond your ability to achieve and working hard on poorly conceived projects, he can certainly be proud of that trait. But DevX's boasts have never been about his character, or the work he's done. They're about the achievements that he hasn't yet achieved and the projects he hasn't yet, and likely never will have, completed.

I think we're all guilty of this...hehehe. :) How many of us have made a big claim about the next big project they're going to tackle and then never followed through?

Mark_Y wrote:
Look at the combined arrogance (about himself), scorn (about the woman in question), and condescension (to LG) in that post.

I probably would have said something similar...

Mark_Y wrote:
I just don't see why this guy is worth defending, even in comparison to LG. Maybe LG is marginally (significantly?) worse and somewhat more arrogant (or unjustified in his pride), but LG is at least an amusing clown, while DevX is just a moody, self-righteous blowhard.

Well, DevX has done a lot of good for the Frozen Utopia team, so I have no reason to NOT defend him. Everyone has their flaws...some people just choose to let their flaws dominate them...

Nephilim wrote:
Pride destroyed Magincia.

W00t??
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Quote:

Heh, last edit: I would enjoy seeing pics of you and LG, just to get the right image in my head. (Though how we'd know that either was real, I can't imagine.)


one last thing.......
I'll post these when I get home.
..ok, gotta go now.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: [quote]

nodtveidt wrote:
LordGalbalan wrote:
Now I understand DeveloperX can't think for himself worth a bucket of salt, and I admire his genius for engaging people besides. But the rest of you, almost all of you introverts who think before they speak. It's intolerable.

You just lost every shred of credibility you had in my eyes. Of course, I suppose it doesn't matter, since you're God almighty. You'll get no further support from me.


First of all, that was hardly an insult. Just not a compliment.

I called the guy a genius, and I said I admired that trait in him. As to whether I admire him, no I don't. I don't "admire" anyone because I know no one is a superhero.

He... reacts. A lot. And he's just a tad too trusting of people. I never would have been taken in by the guy from "Bell South" myself. He deliberately wears blinders, it seems. That's really his only weakness though, as he makes it through anyway and still ends up liked by EVERYBODY. Even Gavin thinks highly of him. (although, he's never met him...) It just seems to me amazing how everyone likes the guy all the time. Even the people who take advantage of him like him, probably. He's the kind of guy I was raised to think was the devil, and when I met him I quite honestly thought he was. He can take the world wherever he can think to take it, and he only wants to help other's worldly dreams come true. Technically, as worldly dreams are preached by Jesus to be distractions from spiritual duty and inner peace, (the word of the Gospel, not Paul's later interpretations) he is the antithesis of Jesus' mission. Someone like DevX probably approached Jesus fasting in the desert, and the rest was history. I'm sure DevX, if he lived at that time, could never have conceived of Jesus' mission. How could he, when Jesus never told anyone of it but his closest disciples? And I'm sure that the worldly hopes and dreams of DevX would have seemed anathema to Jesus. Like they are to Gavin.

But something happened when Jesus died on the cross. He came to terms with the world around him and embraced it, and the DevX inside him reached out to the world as the Holy Spirit. So the devil turned out not to be evil after all. The Satan of the Father and the Satan of the Son turned out differently. (note Satan means "adversary") Indeed, the devil turned out to be Jesus' own refusal to be a part of the world. Now he is with us always, even to the end of the world, as his church.

So I realize DevX is one of those rare people who is going to be tremendously influential. I don't think he's an evil person and I don't think he's stupid. I just think he has, like the rest of us, flaws, if only one crucial one, is that he doesn't think before he acts. He doesn't run the words through his head. He's spontaneous. He's always engaged. He's always talking to at least three people at once, keeping on a conversation and still responding with lightning speed to each participant. I conjectured from working with him on Dream Destroyer that he uses his constant contacts with people to try to avoid thinking for himself, except for those every few days when all of a sudden something clicks inside us and we "see" something we hadn't before in ourselves and in others. I know then that he stops and thinks, and considers carefully what happens. I would have thought only a year ago that his method of give-and-take between people for information was evil. I've changed since then, and it was that change that let me befriend DeveloperX, to work with him, and to help him. He helped me too, by being my steady partner, and for a year he's kept my dreams aloft. Every day seems just a day away from a totally new experience tomorrow, from the fulfillment of all my dreams. I guess I need to come down to reality.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:53 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Nice, nice, keep analyzing your ex-friend like that. I'm sure you're really helping things.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: [quote]

RuneLancer wrote:
Nice, nice, keep analyzing your ex-friend like that. I'm sure you're really helping things.


Stay out of it.
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Mark_Y
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: [quote]

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: [quote]

Here's the progress so far. Yes, it's completely open to critique. C is not my native language.

Code:

#include <stdio.h>

#define  Microspan
#define  Namespan
#define  Span
#define  DoubleSpan
#define  Kilospan
#define  Pagespan
#define  SegmentSpan
#define  Megaspan
#define  Superspan
#define  Gigaspan


typedef struct Stringray
{
  String[Span];
} *Stringray;


typedef struct StringMatrix
{

} *StringMatrix;






int lengthOf (char *Source) {

  int Index = 0;
  while (Source[Index] != 0) {
    Index++;
    }
  return Index;
  }


char* concat (char *Source1, char *Source2) {

  int Length = lengthOf(Source1) + lengthOf(Source2);
  char Destination[DoubleSpan] = "";

  int y = 0;
  int x = 0;

  int Limit = lengthOf(Source1);
  while (x < Limit) {

    Destination[y++] = Source1[x++];
    }

  x = 0;
  Limit = lengthOf(Source2);
  while (x < Limit) {

    Destination[y++] = Source2[x++];
    }

  return *Destination;
  }


char* join (char *Source) {

  int Length = lengthOf(Source);

  char Destination[PageSpan] = "";

  int y = 0;
  int x = 0;
  int index = 0;
  int Limit = 0;

  while (y < Length) {

    Limit = lengthOf(Source[y][x]);

    for (x = 0; x < Limit; x++) {

      Destination[index++] = Source[y][x];
      }
    y++;
    }

  return *Destination;
  }


char* substring (char *Source, int Origin, int Limit) {

  if (Origin < 0) {
    Origin = 0;
    }

  if (Limit > lengthOf(Source)) {
    Limit = lengthOf(Source);
    }
  else
  if (Limit <= 0) {
    Limit = lengthOf(Source);
    }
  else
  if (Limit == Origin) {
    return 0;
    }

  int Length = Limit - Origin;
  char Destination[Span] = "";

  int y = 0;
  int x = Origin;
  while (x < Limit) {

    Destination[y++] = Source[x++];
    }

  return *Destination;
  }



function LoadTileset (Tileset *Destination, StringMatrix *Source) {

  int index = 0;
  Source.valueOf = split(Source.valueOf, Source.value, ";");

  while (y < Destination.Limit) {

    while (x < lengthOf(Source.valueOf)) {

      move (Destination->valueOf[y]->Name, Source->valueOf[x++]);
      move (Destination->valueOf[y]->Graphic, Source->valueOf[x++]);
      move (Destination->valueOf[y]->Interaction, Source->valueOf[x++]);
      move (Destination->valueOf[y]->Obstacle, Source->valueOf[x++]);
      x++;
      }
    y++;
    }
  }



function LoadMapVector (TileMap *Destination,
                        Tileset *Auxiliary,
                        char *Source) {

  int index = 0;
  while (index < Destination->Limit) {

    Auxiliary->Index = Source[index];
    move (Destination->valueOf[index]->Name,
     Auxiliary->valueOf[Auxiliary->Index]->Name);
    move (Destination->valueOf[index]->Graphic,
     Auxiliary->valueOf[Auxiliary->Index]->Graphic);
    move (Destination->valueOf[index]->Interaction,
     Auxiliary->valueOf[Auxiliary->Index]->Interaction);
    move (Destination->valueOf[index]->Obstacle,
     Auxiliary->valueOf[Auxiliary->Index]->Obstacle);
    index++;
    }
  }


Yes, I know most of it is not legal C. Not yet. I'm working toward implementation first, and then corrections afterward.

I just finished the tile loading and map loading functions in JS. (though I've not yet used them) Tell me what you think. (about the C, not the JS)

I should explain the defines: they are meant to be filled in by the user in the main program, so that the user can scale the program's string needs as necessary. Of course, some default values for the string span lengths will be provided.
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tcaudilllg
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:31 am    Post subject: [quote]

I should mention: the only part of AJAX I don't use is XML. It's got its purposes, but neither Iconsole nor Worldyne needs it now.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: [quote]

Um, ever heard of the standard library?
Or classes?
Or templates?

Or not reinventing the wheel?
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