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Mandrake
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: [quote]

It can't be a "bad time right now" since he's been like this for a very very long time. We all tried to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Just do a search on the forum for all of his posts.
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NyanNyanKoneko
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: [quote]

OK, I see what you mean.

From what I can tell, LG is going through an adolscent growing period in his philosophical mind set where he's beginning to understand the philosophical underpinnings of the uncertainty of the universe.

In other words, he thinks he's the man with the master plan, and he's got everything figured out, including his personality type (which by the way in entj, if I'm not mistaken.)

In other words, he's just cocky. He'll grow out of it in a few years, once he realizes the trivial nature of his existance and the importance of interhuman relational understanding.

That comes later. Followed by the realization of an internal utopia. Anyways, it's part of the growing process, like the terrible twos. At best, he's just obnoxious right now, but still bareable.

Anyways, he has posted over 600 times here, so he's not a troll or trying to cause trouble. He's, at worst, immature at times, so just ignore him. The more you yell at him, the more stuck in his ways he'll become.

Just let him know if you think what he did was innaproprite or not. No need for big drama.
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RuneLancer
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Hrm, NNK, LG is in his early 20s according to his LJ profile, and the use of acronyms in this sentence exceeds the legal limit set in place by the W3C.

There was a brief moment when LG seemed to lay off and try to change his behavior, but it seems like it was only a momentary thing. Kind of regretful, I think people were starting to see him as a fellow board member for a while but now it seems like it's turning back into the same old shit all over again...
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NyanNyanKoneko
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:51 am    Post subject: [quote]

Some people are late bloomers, what can I say? =)
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BadMrBox
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Cant we just all be friends and concentrate ourselfs on doing to things we are supposed to do?
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tcaudilllg
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: [quote]

First of all, I don't have a jihad against DevX. Not at all. In fact I've been trying to patch things up.

Secondly, I stand by just about everything I've ever said here, except for those things that I've personally apologized for/disavowed, etc. I just want to know how this world works, and I've grown up with preconceived notions that most people around me nurtured in my childhood. As to whether or not those notions are true--because it is certainly not yet written anywhere whether they are or are not--may only be ascerntained through experiment and analysis.

Eh? Me, insignificant? Hmm... well... I won't fan flames, after all, it takes so much effort to put them back down again. I've got more enlightening uses for my time.

Anyway... I may have misunderstood DevX, but I remember him saying something to the effect that he doesn't usually think about what he says until he is saying it. Now I may have gotten the wrong idea, and if I did then I'm simply wrong on that point. But for the sake of scientific understanding--which I am going to communicate to the world when I've finished my clinical psychology degree--I want to know: is inner speech connected in any way to the issue of extroversion/introversion? There are some other possibilities that will come to light only after I have understood the answer to that question.

Mandrake, lay off.
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Sirocco
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:22 am    Post subject: [quote]

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I want to know: is inner speech connected in any way to the issue of extroversion/introversion?


Sure, it's actually quite simple. Extroverts talk to other people, while introverts talk to themselves ;)
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RuneLancer
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: [quote]

Mate, I just have one thing to say. The brain doesn't pick a personality "mold" to conform to somewhere along its developement. Introversion and extroversion are just two general-purpose denominations used to talk about people who, on average, are either outgoing or reserved.

And that's it. The brain doesn't know this, and it won't decide, hey, this zeeb's introverted. This means I must be more active on the creativity scale! Quick my neuron minions! We have no time to waste on this silly self-confidence thing!!

The same goes for ANY 4-letter personality acronym. You might as well take your horoscope seriously, because people will always attempt to associate whatever they can with what they're told when something's vague. Oh hey, I'm apparently a creative and artistic individual. Well, I'm in game-dev, this makes sense! And I did think up of the color scheme for my web site. IT'S ALL SO TRUE. ;)

Seriously man, don't buy into this stuff like it's hard truth. It's just a guideline that's never completely right for anyone, and always partially correct. Often, correct often enough for people to fool themselves into thinking it does apply to them. Studying this stuff is all good, but it's not a tool to use for any truly serious study of people in general...
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NyanNyanKoneko
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Quote:
may only be ascerntained through experiment and analysis.


LOL, that made me laugh.

I'm going to give you a little piece of advice... You think too much. =) Give it a rest. The meaning of existance and how you view the world should come to you. This is the idea behind meditation. By NOT thinking, you can better understand the universe. Plus, it'll make you a lot happier than trying to use science to probe unquantifiable assertions.

Anyways, don't let them get you down LG. Peace forever.
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tunginobi
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Joined: 13 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: [quote]

NyanNyanKoneko wrote:
By NOT thinking, you can better understand the universe.

So I have been doing the right thing all along! Everybody calls me lazy, but I know better.
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BadMrBox
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Quote:
First of all, I don't have a jihad against DevX. Not at all. In fact I've been trying to patch things up.
I hope it works out great...
but this sentence...
Quote:
OK then, I'll take it that inner speech is common to everyone.
But wait, what about DevX? Does he experience it?

..plain stupid LG. Everybody have a inner speech or whatever you want to call it. Read a book, you experience it. Write a letter you experience it. Think, you experience it.
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Nodtveidt
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: [quote]

BadMrBox wrote:
Think, you experience it.

This can only be accomplished by those capable of such. :)
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tcaudilllg
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: [quote]

BadMrBox wrote:

..plain stupid LG. Everybody have a inner speech or whatever you want to call it. Read a book, you experience it. Write a letter you experience it. Think, you experience it.


It doesn't seem plain stupid necessarily. I mean, when you're conversing in a group, then do you use inner speech? No, you just say what you're thinking as you think it. Everything is spontaneous and in the context of the discussion.

What I'm asking is, is it possible for someone not to be able to experience inner speech except for say, every now and then, and maybe not even know you're saying it? Is it possible for a person to be like that?

RuneLancer wrote:

Mate, I just have one thing to say. The brain doesn't pick a personality "mold" to conform to somewhere along its developement. Introversion and extroversion are just two general-purpose denominations used to talk about people who, on average, are either outgoing or reserved.

And that's it. The brain doesn't know this, and it won't decide, hey, this zeeb's introverted. This means I must be more active on the creativity scale! Quick my neuron minions! We have no time to waste on this silly self-confidence thing!!

The same goes for ANY 4-letter personality acronym. You might as well take your horoscope seriously, because people will always attempt to associate whatever they can with what they're told when something's vague. Oh hey, I'm apparently a creative and artistic individual. Well, I'm in game-dev, this makes sense! And I did think up of the color scheme for my web site. IT'S ALL SO TRUE. ;)

Seriously man, don't buy into this stuff like it's hard truth. It's just a guideline that's never completely right for anyone, and always partially correct. Often, correct often enough for people to fool themselves into thinking it does apply to them. Studying this stuff is all good, but it's not a tool to use for any truly serious study of people in general...


Actually there has been some scientific evidence uncovered in the last few years that links introversion and extroversion to brain wave frequencies. (alpha, theta, beta, etc.) The research is ongoing, but it's there.

Unless you're a narcisist RL (and I'm not saying that you are), then you'll understand what I'm saying in about another year or so. Extroversion and extraversion are not the same concept.
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RuneLancer
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: [quote]

LordGalbalan wrote:
You'll understand what I'm saying in about another year or so.

Can you tell me where babies come from, LG? I've always wanted to know that... ;)
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