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grenideer
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:33 pm    Post subject: Best C++ IDE? [quote]

I wondered about this after reading the Dev-C++ thread. Man, I know I haven't used a lot of compilers but Visual Studio.NET is awesome. I don't know how anyone (DrunkenCoder, I'm looking in your general direction :) could not like it.

Seriously though, what didn't you like about it? To me it is fast and helpful.

Also, to everyone, what is your favorite?
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Ninkazu
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject: [quote]

I just don't like the .NET framework. Simple as that. Although... since I'm in a C++ class at college, I get to download it for free. Yaay, I get more free expensive stuff! (I just got Maya 5.0 and VS6.0 enterprise NYAHAHA)
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valderman
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:56 pm    Post subject: [quote]

You don't have to use the .NET framework even though you're using VC.NET. The name is kind of misleading.
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BigManJones
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 12:23 am    Post subject: [quote]

I'm going to buy c++ .net pro since I'm taking a summer class and I can get it for $99.95. I have vis c++ 6.0 learning/std ed. but I never use it. I don't like it becuase it does too much for you. I don't like make files because they're too much work, dev c++ is just right ;P
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PoV
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:53 am    Post subject: [quote]

Ultraedit is my "ide" of choice, as I tend to work on numerous gaming platforms (PC, PSX, GBA, ...) and in numerous languages. $35 gets you a powerful text/hex editor with many built in features for migrating back and forth between unix tools, syntax hilighting, column mode, and much more. If you have your own scripting languages, UltraEdit is great since you can create a custom keyword list of all your scripting commands and take advantage of syntax hilighting, case correction, as well as autocompletion.

But by all means, use your Microsoft tools. There's the ones with all the money. And money makes the ideal product, doesn't it?? :P :)
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DrV
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:10 am    Post subject: [quote]

The Visual Studio .NET IDE sucks big ass. It redefines the term "bloatware". That said, it has some nice perks and such, but I like Dev-C++ - it's simple and clean and has a minimum of features which are all useful.
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DrunkenCoder
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 7:15 am    Post subject: [quote]

Well, the intellisense is nice and actually working and not broken like
Dev-C++ but generally I just find it slow clunky and well just to much.

Also comparing the .NET IDE to 6.0 just makes things worse, 6.0 was
fairly fast easy to use and had no problems managing many projects
in one workspace (now they're called solutions and I cant get the darn
thing to only compile the current one without a lot of hassle)

And the fact that Dev-C++ is free is worth a lot to me, I really
can't afford the others so it kinda helps my conscience quite a bit...

Ultraedit is otherwise a great editor I do all my asm coding in it.
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entivore
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:44 am    Post subject: [quote]

I use borland c++ builder 5 standard, cause it was the cheapest compiler I knew of at the time that didn't have that annoying "Don't distribute your programs!" term. I must say, the text editing part of the ide is a piece of shit. There is this "code insight" feature that looks up class/function names when the mouse cursor is over them. You can't turn off all of the code insight stuff though, just some of it. The end result is that while I'm trying to work I'll get big long 2-3 second pause as the feature searches through all the files to find a reference. Kinda annoying, especially for a guy like me who uses the mouse and keyboard together.

Course some of it is useful too. For example, after the . or -> it'll give you a list of member variables and functions belonging to that class or instance.

Also, even after applying the patch, there are still a few bugs. For example, sometimes the compiler will complain about "unreachable code" after seeing a return statement inside of switch/case block. (I tested the "unreachable code" section and yes, it does execute) Course, that's not really the IDE's fault, it's the compiler I presume.

Honestly though, I don't really care that much about the ide, as long as there is one.
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BigManJones
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:35 am    Post subject: [quote]

Ultraedit site wrote:

Ability to hide and unhide selected portions of text


I would like to see this feature in an editor; the ability to hide all the code/text under a function definition to the next function definition (maybe in between parenthesis/scope terminators?) clicking a carrot or a right click or something.
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DrunkenCoder
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:21 pm    Post subject: [quote]

BigManJones wrote:
I would like to see this feature in an editor; the ability to hide all the code/text under a function definition to the next function definition (maybe in between parenthesis/scope terminators?) clicking a carrot or a right click or something.


If you're running Linux and Gnome try Anjuta it's an excellent IDE
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DarkDread
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 7:25 pm    Post subject: [quote]

It's either going to be vim, or kdevelop... barring that, I'm not much for big and fancy IDEs, so I'll use something simple, and text based, most of the time. Hell, good ol' vi will do just fine, for the most part... though, syntax highlighting would be nice. Yes, emacs has it, but emacs is a giant bloated cow. :p
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DrV
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 11:40 pm    Post subject: [quote]

DarkDread wrote:
Yes, emacs has it, but emacs is a giant bloated cow. :p

lol

gVim is very nice. I use it sometimes too, but mostly for Perl coding. It has syntax highlighting for a bunch of languages already built in, and you can add your own if you want. It even runs on Windows! :)
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Rainer Deyke
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:49 am    Post subject: [quote]

I also use gVim for most of my editing needs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:55 am    Post subject: [quote]

windows: ultraedit
linux: Vim


death to to the compiler packaged IDE!
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