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    | janus Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Fury2 Intro | [quote] |  
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          | I put this together tonight, and would appreciate it if you guys could take a quick look and tell me what you think. Any suggestions on timing/etc improvements would be great. 
 http://fury2.luminance.org/files/fury2intro.avi
 
 Hopefully this counts as graphics... ^_^
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    | Ninkazu Demon Hunter
 
  
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          |  Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Hmmm.... the revolving thingy is a bit too slow. |  | 
  
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    | Bjorn Demon Hunter
 
  
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          |  Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | I think it's interesting. I take it with the revolving you mean drawing the white circle? Personally I think that could be faster. Also I'm not so sure about the "Fury" being so pixelated when zoomed. |  | 
  
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    | tcaudilllg Dragonmaster
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:48 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Any chance you could MPEG that, Janus? |  | 
  
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    | janus Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:32 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | I don't have an MPEG encoder. You can play it with pretty much any decent MPEG-4 compatible player - quicktime should be able to handle it, VLC can handle it, and if you have DivX installed so can WMP. 	  | LordGalbalan wrote: |  	  | Any chance you could MPEG that, Janus? | 
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    | Nephilim Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          |  	  | janus wrote: |  	  | I don't have an MPEG encoder. You can play it with pretty much any decent MPEG-4 compatible player - quicktime should be able to handle it, VLC can handle it, and if you have DivX installed so can WMP. 	  | LordGalbalan wrote: |  	  | Any chance you could MPEG that, Janus? | 
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 Well, it didn't work for me under QuickTime.  You might try using a more standard codec.
 
 If you're not going to offer it in other formats, you might consider posting a few screenshots.
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    | LeoDraco Demon Hunter
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | To play the Devil's Advocate, here, it takes, like, no time at all to grab and install the DivX codec. I'm honestly surprised that there exist people whom do not have it, seeing as its a fairly popular codec. _________________
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    | janus Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:55 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Err.... since when isn't DivX fairly standard? I mean, it's supported by a large number of hardware players, and it's *supposed* to be MPEG-4. I guess if Quicktime can't play it, I'll need to find a new codec. 	  | Nephilim wrote: |  	  |  	  | janus wrote: |  	  | I don't have an MPEG encoder. You can play it with pretty much any decent MPEG-4 compatible player - quicktime should be able to handle it, VLC can handle it, and if you have DivX installed so can WMP. 	  | LordGalbalan wrote: |  	  | Any chance you could MPEG that, Janus? | 
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 Well, it didn't work for me under QuickTime.  You might try using a more standard codec.
 
 If you're not going to offer it in other formats, you might consider posting a few screenshots.
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    | Mandrake elementry school minded asshole
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Quick time can play it, but it isn't standard.  You need to download the codec which contains SPYWARE.    Again- for ANY use of DivX (any media player except VideoLAN) you need the DivX codec from the website which contains spyware and adware. 
 I'd look into something else.
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    | Bjorn Demon Hunter
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Of course I would much rather see an XviD encoded version, but MPlayer plays the DivX just fine and it seems to be using FFmpeg. I am on Linux but MPlayer is available for Windows as well. |  | 
  
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    | LeoDraco Demon Hunter
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          |  	  | Mandrake wrote: |  	  | Quick time can play it, but it isn't standard.  You need to download the codec which contains SPYWARE.    Again- for ANY use of DivX (any media player except VideoLAN) you need the DivX codec from the website which contains spyware and adware. 
 I'd look into something else.
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 The codec can also be found elsewhere. I've installed from there before, sans spyware.
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    | Nephilim Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          |  	  | Mandrake wrote: |  	  | Quick time can play it, but it isn't standard.  You need to download the codec which contains SPYWARE.    Again- for ANY use of DivX (any media player except VideoLAN) you need the DivX codec from the website which contains spyware and adware. 
 I'd look into something else.
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 This is the sort of thing that keeps me away from installing nonstandard QuickTime codecs.
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    | janus Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | DivX has spyware now? :O When did that happen? It was spyware free when I installed it. 	  | Mandrake wrote: |  	  | Quick time can play it, but it isn't standard.  You need to download the codec which contains SPYWARE.    Again- for ANY use of DivX (any media player except VideoLAN) you need the DivX codec from the website which contains spyware and adware. 
 I'd look into something else.
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    | Nephilim Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Some googling turned up some further information.  It looks like DivX does indeed engage in a bit of malware; it apparently installs Gator on your system. 
 However, from what I can grok from the few sites I read, the playback-only codec is not infected with malware - only the production codec, presumably to help drive demand for the malware/paid version.
 
 So you're safe if you only watch DivX, but that begs the question - do you want to help make the proprietary property of a malware pusher more valuable by trading in media wrapped up in their codec?
 
 Personally, I don't care for malware tactics, so I'm afraid I won't be installing DivX on my system, even if the playback-only codec is malware-free.
 
 But I'd still like to see your video!
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    | janus Mage
 
  
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          |  Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: | [quote] |  
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          | Wow. Gator, no less? Ouch. 	  | Nephilim wrote: |  	  | Some googling turned up some further information.  It looks like DivX does indeed engage in a bit of malware; it apparently installs Gator on your system. 
 However, from what I can grok from the few sites I read, the playback-only codec is not infected with malware - only the production codec, presumably to help drive demand for the malware/paid version.
 
 So you're safe if you only watch DivX, but that begs the question - do you want to help make the proprietary property of a malware pusher more valuable by trading in media wrapped up in their codec?
 
 Personally, I don't care for malware tactics, so I'm afraid I won't be installing DivX on my system, even if the playback-only codec is malware-free.
 
 But I'd still like to see your video!
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 Well, I made some more tweaks to the video, and tried encoding it with XviD instead. It seems to work about as well as DivX, so here goes :)
 http://fury2.luminance.org/files/fury2intro3.avi
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