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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Has anyone used REALbasic? [quote]

Has anyone used REALbasic before? If so, what version of REALbasic did you use and what was your experience with it (positive, negative, or other)?

I'm considering REALbasic 2007 R1 to build the client-side portion of an online RPG I've been working on. The largest motivator to use this language is the platform independence (full Windows, Mac OS X, Mac Classic, and Linux support). The server-side portion is being written in Microsoft C# with a Microsoft SQL backend.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: [quote]

You can achieve platform-independence if you use the right libraries in C++. You'll know that what you're creating is minimal and yours. I don't know much about REALbasic other than it's VB cross platform (the virus... it's MUTATED!!). I would assume that it adds a lot of baggage to the executables to be able to run, as QuickBASIC had to add all its libraries to the exe.

I would say it's good for RAD like VB and Delphi are, just to have some GUI utilities around the office, but I wouldn't even consider using basic to write an MMO.

I'm not an expert on the topic of garbage collection and it's downfalls, but I remember reading specifically that it's bad for a server application. Just some points to mull over from my opinion. I'm sure Leo is going to want to rip me to shreds though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: [quote]

Ninkazu wrote:
I'm sure Leo is going to want to rip me to shreds though.

You syphilitic, Siberian, son-of-a....

Nah, I got nothing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: [quote]

Holy shit, that's one expensive compiler. I think only VB costs more than that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: [quote]

With regard to the server-side application I am working on; Microsoft has provided a great deal of control over the garbage collection process in most .Net languages. Furthermore, nearly all high-performance server applications pre-allocate resources and retain them for the execution life of the program to avoid incurring a performance penalty from the resource creation/allocation/destruction process.

Most of the informal testing I have performed places C# in nearly the same performance category as C++, with some functions/routines performing slower and some performing faster.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Holy cow. The prices. The cost. Now I'm going to have nightmares for like, forever.
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