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Ninkazu
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:24 pm    Post subject: Flame wars [quote]

If you see a topic that you think will make you mad and start a flame war, don't reply, or better yet, don't look at that topic anymore. If there was something interesting in the thread that you'd like to talk about, but would rather avoid the offensive topic, just start your own thread. Really, a moderator would much rather see threads about similar things than one thread with a flame war.

I have participated in flame wars in the past, and I regret it. Really, what does it get you? Say you're somewhere in Oregon. Does it really matter that you HAVE to show someone in Sweden your point of view (in a rude way, I might add), so they can disregard it and still have the same views? No, it doesn't. Flame wars have one point - getting everyone mad at each other. This is an RPG development forum, not a "Let's piss some people off today" forum.

I don't have mod status, but I certainly do have logic.

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Don't respond to this, just nod. I don't want THIS thread to turn into some flame war about "tickle me elmo", or something completely off topic like that.
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LeoDraco
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: [quote]

You disgusting perv! I don't want to tickle your elmo! Gawd.

And flaming is teh fun! I think it's cathartic; if we didn't get out negative emotions (even if they don't produce, as you say, any lasting results), then we would all be a whole lot more negative, savvy?

Let the trolls have their holy-wars, I say. Except Dunric.
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Ninkazu
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Here is not the place for flaming. End of discussion.
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LeoDraco
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: [quote]

Ninkazu wrote:
Here is not the place for flaming. End of discussion.


And I say you are taking this to a totalitarian extreme. Since when were you given mod status to declare no flame wars? Heated discussion--even pointless mudslinging--is part of civilized society. Declaring a moratorium on flame wars isn't going to solve anything. Sure, flame wars aren't pretty, but that's the point: as long as it isn't taken to a Dunric extreme, it should be permissible.
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valderman
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:49 pm    Post subject: [quote]

If it was Mandrake who closed the "Who plans on becoming a preofessional" thread, adding in your point of view/arguments in the last post before closing was really tactless. Applying a GDNet-like "If I participate, I don't moderate" policy would have been better IMO.
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Tenshi
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:54 pm    Post subject: [quote]

- There's a difference between a flame war and a discussion. Mandrake and I were discussing. We were doing so in a civilized fashion. The Flames started when Happy interjected a fruitless comment, and last I checked (at 5am this morning, EST, that was the last comment in the thread before it was locked. Mandrake's was added afterwards).
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supergoat
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: [quote]

I for one completely support everyone's inalienable right to start controversial and heated discussions that are completely off the topic of the thread at hand and carry them to the extent that the original, innocuous thread gets locked.

*cough*
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:55 am    Post subject: [quote]

It's heartening to see the way this was handled in any case. Big difference between instant banning and deleting any references to an "incident" and simply locking and relocating it.
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entivore
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: [quote]

The above was me btw. Forgot to log in.

Though there is still some chance there might be other actions taken, depending on how much a certain purpose feels the forum is still his to dictate as he sees fit.
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Sirocco
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: [quote]

I feel that splitting the hijacked topic into two distinct threads was a great boon for everyone. I, for one, was not finished discussing the OT, and didn't want to post something that would seem outright non sequitur given the number of posts totally unrelated to professional game development.

Moderation is a valuable tool; it should be used, but properly.
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Bjorn
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:50 pm    Post subject: [quote]

I'm not quite sure if you mean I used them right or wrong, but I just tried my best option. Some posts winded up wrongly, and I apologize for that. And I think some posts where related to both topics.

entivore wrote:
Though there is still some chance there might be other actions taken, depending on how much a certain purpose feels the forum is still his to dictate as he sees fit.

If you mean "person" instead of "purpose", you might be referring to me, as I feel this forum is quite mine to dictate as I see fit. Any objections? ;-)

(if there seriously are objections, please just talk about it)
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XMark
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject: [quote]

heh, might as well admit it was me who locked the topic in the first place. I saw Happy's insult and was like "ooh, looks like trouble" and I locked it.
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Mandrake
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:10 am    Post subject: [quote]

naw i think people mean me...i think they thought i locked the thread to 'win' the arguement. I haven't moderated in a while, mainly because i think that the other forum moderators are doing their job excellently and so far have not needed my help.
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valderman
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: [quote]

My apologies.
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XMark
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: [quote]

I noticed one thing: whenever there's a flame war all of a sudden we get a lot more traffic on the boards. Maybe someone should start a flame war on my stagnant messageboard :) (actually, I'm just kidding, please don't)
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